Sunday, October 25, 2015

Tyson Zahner is a scamming scumbag.

Gay as fuck.

Not long ago I was viewing MLM videos by Ethan Vanderbuilt.  After the video was done, another video started playing.  It was a review on Vanderbuilt by a lying shitbag named Tyson Zahner.


Zahner went on for 20+ minutes about how Vanderbuilt may be a scammer, because Vanderbuilt makes money from ad revenue from his website.  Okay.  How is that a scam?  Please explain, Tyson.



Zahner then goes on to talk about how he posted messages on Vanderbuilt's site, questioning how Vanderbuilt makes his money.  Zahner then turned into an emotional little bitch when Vanderbuilt gives his response on why he is a Scam Buster.



Notice how Zahner tried to keep the discussion on the topic of Vanderbuilt's website revenue and not on the reason Vanderbuilt believes that MLMs are scams.


Pretty boring, huh?


So, I decided to jump in.  Not to defend Vanderbuilt's website revenue, but to further question pussy-ass Zahner on his own network marketing coaching scheme.  I posted a blistering comment on his bullshit video that went like this:




Zahner replied to my post with this:



Guess what?  Yup.  I immediately dug deep into his lying ass.





Zahner was a cocky son of a bitch, but I was not impressed at all.  He was spewing the usual MLM psychobabble bullshit that I came to expect from a lying shitbag like him.  So I had to put the scam-reality nail in his fucking MLM coffin:






Zahner has yet to post a video with his disclosed income claims.  I wasn't holding my breath for it either.  But, instead of a reply from Zahner, I got a bunch of troll-like responses on videos I'd commented on in the past by this wholesome user:



It boggles the mind, don't it?



Of course, Zahner made no real effort to shut me up.  He just wanted me to go away, like all scammers do when you call them on their bullshit and they don't have a crutch to lean on, much less any duct tape to hold that fucker together for them to hobble with:



For all his MLM tough talk, Tyson accomplishes NADA.


Now, I give dude credit for trying, but his argument was weak as fuck.  Like all MLM maggots, he tried to derail the topic by talking about my online identity and how him showing his ugly mug in his videos somehow makes him more honest.

Now, stop for a second.  Let that sink in.  Have any of you ever got a good long look at this Tyson slimeball?  Just look at him!



Would you trust an infected Yeast Cunt like this?


Dude is just a lying scammer.  No shame in his game.  Fuck you, Zahner (stick to photography; it's the only business where you can fully develop something productive from a bunch of negatives).




54 comments:

  1. such an intelligent way to defend your position Thomas. Name calling and unsupported claims and accusations. Well done. I've given you the proof that you asked for in this thread. I knew it would never appease someone like you, but for those people who are reading this nonsense and wondering whether I (Tyson) am legit or not, you can find the the proof posted right here where Thomas asked for it. Although I'm sure you don't need. It doesn't take much to realize that somebody who uses the kind of foul language and slandering words that Thomas does is not to be taken seriously - http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?685320-Tyson-Zahner-MLM-Coaching-Scumbag&p=1892850&posted=1#post1892850

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    1. You got owned, Scumbag Zahner. I can be purple with green polka dots, won't make a damn bit of difference. You boasted about your 6 figure income, I asked for proof. All I got was a doctored tax form.

      So why should I take you serious?! I've seen this MLM defense BS over and over again! Face facts. You got your ass handed to you on your own video. I'm not buying into your lies. You're a scammer. End of commentary.

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    2. It's rediculous to lable MLM or Network Marketing as a "scam" just because most people don't make money at it and quit. Most people fail at the insurance industry, the real estate industry and smaall businesses in general have a 95% failure rate within 5 yers (according to the small business administration). So all small business is a scam? You guys are just uninformed immature children. Stop being such HUGE assholes!

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    3. MLM is different from other industries, because there's a comp plan. You can't take MLM products to the local flea market and sell it outside fo the comp plan. You have to follow the rules, which will lead to nobody on the bottom of the pyramid making any money.

      A regular job has paid positions, unlike MLM. It's nice how scumbags like Tyson Zahner can make a YouTube trashing Ethan Vanderbuilt, but when somebody questions his coaching leads system, it's a big deal. I know Tyson is a lying shitbag, but if you want to defend him, buy into one of his schemes and see if you will ever urn a profit with Tyson.

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    4. Wooooooooowwwwwww... such harsh language. I didn't even bother reading this whole post. And to be fair, I didn't read Tyson's whole post, either. I just read the first few parts, and just off pure professionalism Tyson won this one.

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    5. Tyson won?! How?! If it was such "harsh language" to your virgin ears, why bother writing a reply? Is this Scumbag Zahner behind a shell profile? One of his phony six-figure flunkies? Another drone supporter of Tyson's leads system scam? Get new material, fuckboy.

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    6. You’re an MLM Superman Thomas! I want YOUR secrets!

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    7. There are no secrets. Stop defending Tyson Zahner. Keep your money in your bank account.

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    8. Why Tyson do you continue to take money from legitimate people trying to make money for their struggling families if someone has been deceived by you and never logged into your fake program you should do the right thing and give their money back. Also why when on did comment on your Facebook page it has now been removed and I am no longer allowed to comment. Stop with your automated bullshit and give my money back.

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  2. Tyson, Thomas True is a flake, a nerd and a fraud. He made his voice synchronized so we won't know who he is. He probably around 21years old, fat and obese who lives with his parents in the basement, playing video games, and watching WWE Wrestling. I would not take stock with this TommyTrue POS. He's not a threat to you.

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    1. Scumbag Zahner was given a fair chance to back up his claims with facts, but he chose to lie, because he thinks everybody he runs his scam on is stupid. You talk about me using a different voice, but Tyson hides his income and lies about his lifestyle.

      So you can fuck off with that white-knighting bullshit. All of you supporters of Tyson are broke hucksters looking to silence anyone who questions his shady hustle. I may not be a threat, but people sure respond to me as if I pose one. You decide.

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  3. I think you are a little Bitch Cockroach who is Jealous of people in MLM companies who make money and have a better lifestyle than you. At the very least they have to be happier with themselves . You are sad son !

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    1. I have to save my compassion for the people who get ripped off by fraudsters like Scumbag Zahner. He thinks people are stupid enough to fall for his scams. Now, he's buying ad time on YouTube to further sell his fraud.

      He has no conscience about what he does. Why don't you guys hand your money over to Tyson and see how much he helps you. Pay into one of his schemes and see how much money you make. Why would I be jealous of a conman? LOL

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    2. I and wondering Mr. AMAZEBALLS Thomas True what you exactly do for a living? Do you trade hours for dollars at a typical 9-5 pyramid scheme (aka: J-O-B) or are you a successful investor of some kind? I would love your expertise and YOUR results so I can duplicate your success! Thanks for your time!

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    3. Focusing on the person and not his message is classic Ad Hominem logic. Why don't you try attacking my criticisms of Scumbag Zahner instead? If you're here on this blog defending him, come up with any evidence that Tyson isn't ripping people off. It doesn't take an "expert" to see that Scumbag Zahner is a huckster. You figure it out.

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    4. You are 100% RIGHT THOMAS. Scumbag Zahner has set up few people to defend him like this by paying them BIG amount that he makes by cheating ordinary people.

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  4. Thomas, your math is incorrect buddy. first of all. 5 by 5 will give you 244 million after 10 cycles, you must go 12 cycles to reach 6.1 billion which is slightly less than the total population of the plant. and secondly, if you had ever had any real life experience with any marketing program instead of just ranting about something you obviously know nothing about, you would know, that barely 1 out of 10 you contact and sign up will ever duplicate what you are doing, so the concept of saturation, is completely impossible.
    There are a lot of scams out there, there are many network marketing companies who are making extraordinary claims while actually rigging the game so the founders make most of the money. But if you search, do the research, and with a bit of luck as well maybe, you meet the right people, doing the right things for the right reasons, there are some companies that are actually running a good game, giving the members a chance to excel if they are willing to put in the work. Success is always on the other side of convenience Thomas, and some of us are willing to do our share, to be fairly compensated for our efforts. If you expect something for nothing, you will always be disappointed.

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    1. Pat, it would be nice if you shared some of your marketing savvy with people while you're writing these essay-long posts. You are right. There are a lot of scams out there. When you buy into the hype, they've got you. You support the program, because you think it's going to help you turn a profit.

      You're pissing in a hurricane, Pat. If you are part of any MLM, you will not turn a profit, unless you were there when the MLM started at the beginning. You're not sharing anything new or wondrous. It's the same MLM drivel I've heard over and over again. No such things as "the right people" in MLM.

      The right people don't get caught up in scams. Wanna drop knowledge, Mr. Scamburger Patty? Show end user retail sales from any MLM program that you're doing. Then we'll go from there. Otherwise, kindly fuck off and go back to being broke and paying into your MLM scheme.

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    2. You really know how to use attraction marketing Mr. AMAZING Thomas True!

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    3. It's called "bait and switch". Classic CONfidence trick. A huckster like Scumbag Zanher evolves like a virus. Jokers like you get infected with his marketing madness.

      Here's another good article you can read:
      http://themlmsyndrome.blogspot.com/2017/06/mlm-and-financial-guru-tyson-zahner.html

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  5. If you're going to call Tyson Zahner a scammer, at least provide proof that he is one. I recently bought his system and I can tell you he has valuable content within his Ultimate Marketing Formula. In his first video, he talks about the 10 major pitfalls you would want to stay away from. One of them is to not listen to the opinions of others. For me to follow this rule, I'm not going to argue with you, I simply am asking for evidence.

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  6. Scumbag Zahner has already lied about his income by posting fake tax returns on scam.com, so that pretty much puts him in the category of "huckster". If you're making money with his leads system, provide evidence for your claims. Testimonials DO NOT equal profits. We both know this already, Joe Blow Nobody.

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    1. If his tax returns are fake, that still doesn't make him a scammer. Also, who is Joe Blow Nobody? It's hard to believe you one bit if you're going to abuse name-calling.

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    2. Whatever you say, buddy. Buy into one of Tyson's schemes and see if you make any of your money back, then get back to me.

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    3. Again, provide evidence to me as to why his system is not worth buying. If you would take the time and actually buy it, you would understand why barely anyone criticizes Tyson Zahner.

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    4. Dude, that's like saying, "If you would take the time to smoke cigarettes, you would understand why some people don't get lung cancer." Seriously, Joe? That's the best you can come up with?!

      Have you bought any of Scumbag Zahnar's leads-generating bullshit programs? Or are you just here white knighting for slime ball Tyson while spams his shit tier network marketing ads all over YouTube like a discount Tai Lopez?

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    5. Yes, I have. I told you that before, did I not? Have you payed attention to my previous comments at all?

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    6. Have you made any money at all with Scumbag Zahnar's scheme? Show proof of income, just like I asked Tyson. But, we both know that you can't, because you're full of shit like him.

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    7. No. You know why? If you payed more attention to my comment, I stated that I PREVIOUSLY BOUGHT IT. Tyson Zahner never stated that his system was a get rich quick scheme. In fact, he stated the complete opposite. I am a liar? How ironic of you! You just lied to me! XDXDXD

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    8. You bought into his scheme. You scammed. Tyson lied to you. Stop deflecting.

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  7. Hi Thomas Tru! Thank you SO MUCH for your incredibly positive feedback regarding Tyson Zahner’s valuable trainings. I just purchased his home based business hacking funnel to get things rolling! Your positivity is CONTAGIOUS! Keep up the great content for your 5 followers on Google! You’re truly an anomaly in the intense content you offer everyone!

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    1. Thanks! This is not a popularity contest! If you spent money on any of his training, you only yourself to lame. Also, check out this awesome blog, since you think I'm the only one who thinks Scumbag Zahner is a scammer:
      http://themlmsyndrome.blogspot.com/2017/06/mlm-and-financial-guru-tyson-zahner.html

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    2. It’s ok! I just want to tell you how amazing YOU are Thomas... that’s all!

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    3. Can't deny how Tyson is ripping people off, eh Ima? Just read the comments of the article below. Dude is a conman!
      http://themlmsyndrome.blogspot.com/2017/06/mlm-and-financial-guru-tyson-zahner.html

      Don't forget to tell The MLM Syndrome blog how awesome it is, since you're in such a friendly mood!

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    4. Tyson is BIG SCAM. Dont buy his course and waste your money

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  8. Just wondering, can Tyson Zahner sue you for defamation?

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    1. Can Ethan Vanderbuilt sue Tyson for slander? Of course not! These are just opinions! Tyson is a passive-aggressive sociopath who likes to throw gas on a fire, but cries like a pussy when he gets burned.

      He called out Ethan, so I called him out. Maybe next time he thinks about making a video trashing someone, he'll shut his mouth and quietly go away to do his scam. I have absolutely no compassion for shitbags like Scumbag Scammer Zahner.

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  9. I had a very bad experience with Tyson. Hold on to your wallet He's information can be found with a few Google searches and they will not respond to you until its too late to exercise the his phony guarantee.Yep he is a scam, he's information is not worth half of the Big deal price.

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    1. Sherrie, I'm sorry you had to go through that. Most of the information he sells is free. He's jut another financial guru with a leads system to peddle. No shame in his game at all.

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    2. I agree, we can easily learn to create FB page and Ad watching youtube videos. Also you will never make any money using his method of using FB messenger and FB page. You need a proper landing page to get people to sign up and create your list and follow up. He himself is doing it that way. But he advertises and teaches others the opposite and makes money. BIG SCAM. what a JOKE!

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  10. I'm not saying you are wrong but you didn't actually give him any proof that he was lying, you just said that there isn't any proof that hes telling the truth.

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    1. Give it time. Tyson himself will show you exactly how honest he's being as the complaints about his program start adding up.

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  11. $ 1000 for 100 manes any shitbag can come up with a 100 names for that amount of money and what he is really saying is they are leads not buyers and leads are only prospects you need to sell to Does any one really not spot this Sorry to you stupid people who never woke up before signing up

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  12. has any one got far enough to see his up sell..... If those 100 nanes didn't work for you he can sell you 100 more that didn't work for some other victim who already used their 100 with no success The WATKINS man went outta business for having real value Bruce from Hell

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    1. Slimeball Tyson is only looking for new victims to syphon money from. He uses reverse marketing to get people to buy his useless crap with the promise of attracting customers to whatever product or service his marks are trying to sell.

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  13. I unfortunately bought from zahner. It was the 100 leads in 30 days., with an actionable guarantee. Here’s the problem with that. During the webinar he offered a BONUS to sign up for his inner circle. He offers the inner circle free for 30 days but you have to put your credit card information in so I chose not to do it. The problem is now that I want a refund I can’t have a refund because I did not sign up for the inner circle and he made that apart of the actionable steps to get a refund. He gave me an option to take a bonus or not and now I can’t get a refund because I don’t want to join the inner circle. I’ve never seen a company that is so deceitful. I agree with you Thomas even with the colorful language :). People need to be aware that he sets it up to where it is impossible to get your money back.

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    1. Sorry to hear that you were misled and scammed by Scumbag Zahner. This is how he operates. He uses his charisma and his slick sales pitch to lure people in. Like most flim flams, it is nearly impossible to get your money back. The best thing to do is warn people not to get involved with programs like this. Slimeball Tyson can’t operate if people are aware of the fraud he’s trying to pull off.

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    2. I agree with the above comments. His 5 step Refund policy is a BIG SCAM. Not all can achieve all the conditions in it (https://members.ultimatemarketingformula.com/attract-100-leads-refund-request-form/) in 30 days and if NOT you lose your money. If you notice when buying the course his actionable refund policy is HIDDEN in the box and His 30 day MONEY BACK GUARANTEE LOGO doesn't say anything about actionable REFUND. And HE creates urgency by offering bonuses after the webinar so people will sign up immediately looking at the LOGO and wont see the actionable refund policy hiding in the box. SMART WAY TO LURE people. BEWARE!

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  14. Wow,is there any gen online biz out there that doesn't want to sell you "how to teach others, how to teach others how to sell." Is anybody only out to sell you THEIR bag of tricks.

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    1. Sadly, the only thing they sell is a bag of tricks. They have nothing of value to sell to the public, but some slick sales pitch and a bunch of information that is otherwise free online.

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  15. I came across Zahner's videos today, I'm not remotely surprised that he is yet another charlatan posing as an MLM "coach".

    My question to Thomas is are you aware of Frazer Brookes? Here in the UK MLM is only really beginning to receive media attention, I'd say he's the big fish of UK-based MLM "gurus". Wondered if you had any posts on him, otherwise I'd be delighted to contribute to one with you.

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  16. I would never participate in an mlm, but the thing I have noticed when reading this post and the reviews is you keep asking Tyson for proof of his income yet ignore everyone else’s request forYourself to post proof that Tyson lies. Why is that?

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    1. If you were following the drama from YouTube to scam.com you would know that Tyson posted up fake/doctored tax returns, thinking people would believe his lies. He's really reaching now!

      Just look at the complaints from people who bought into his scheme. You're asking me to post proof that Tyson lies?! Look at the people on here complaining about him.

      Are these people who complain about Tyson making it all up? You're deflecting. Tyson spelled out his con game for all to see. Asking me to post proof that Tyson is lying is like asking a tornado how an earthquake works. NEXT!!!

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